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Dule Krtola
11.04.2016, 20:00
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Datum: 20. April 2014
Ime staze: Shanghai International Circuit
Prvo održavanje: 2004
Broj krugova: 56
Dužina staze: 5.451 km
Dužina trke: 305.066 km
Rekord kruga: 1:32.238 - M Schumacher (2004)
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Qualifying officially reverts to previous format for China
Formula One racing’s governing body, the FIA, has officially confirmed that the unpopular qualifying format used in Australia and Bahrain will be dropped for the rest of the season, reverting instead to the system used last year.

“The World Motor Sport Council today approved, via e-vote, the decision to revert to last season’s qualification format for the remainder of the 2016 FIA Formula One World Championship,” read an FIA statement.

“The format, where the slowest six cars are eliminated at the end of the first two qualifying sessions before a final ten-car shootout for Pole in Q3, will return for this weekend’s Chinese Grand Prix.”

The move follows widespread criticism of the revised elimination format seen in Melbourne and Sakhir, which failed to produce the intended change in spectacle.


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Dule Krtola
11.04.2016, 20:01
Izjave...


Toro Rosso

Max Verstappen

“I like China, I remember I had some good overtakes there! The first four corners of the circuit, Turns 1 to 4, are a very special part and tricky to get right.

“Another part of the track that I enjoyed last year was Turn 6… I did a good move there! I couldn't overtake Perez on the straight, so I had to do it somewhere else… I got a good exit out of Turn 5 and, approaching Turn 6, where you normally brake late – as it's a hairpin – I managed to overtake him by braking even later than usual. It's a big relief when you finally get passed a rival and I was very happy.

“Turns 7, 8, 9 and 10 are hard on the tyres, so you have to save the rears a bit to get good traction out of there. Another thing I remember from this circuit are the overtakes at Turn 14 – I prepared myself well down the long straight each time and in the end managed to get by from very far! Unfortunately, last year I had a little issue on the main straight with only a few laps to go… And had to retire.

“I will try not to think about it this year and fight to see the chequered flag in the best possible position.”

Carlos Sainz

“In China you drive down the main straight and arrive to a couple of very long corners, Turns 1, 2, 3 and 4, which actually feel like two corners, not four. It's quite a special section and it's where I had my first mistake of the season last year, as I spun. I also remember going side by side with four cars at Turn 6 at the start of the race, which was interesting as its tight there! Turn 7 is only flat in quali.

“From Turns 7 to 10 there are a lot of changes of direction before arriving to a second long corner, Turns 12 and 13, that take you to the back straight – it's exactly like the first corner of the track, but in the opposite direction. I also recall the back straight being a very long one, but DRS helps a lot to overtake. Arriving to Turn 14 is one of the toughest braking zones; it's very bumpy and difficult to get a reference point.

“Finally, I'd like to mention the massive downhill as you exit the last corner into the main straight. It's something you don't realize when watching on TV, but the car bounces off quite a lot there. All in all, an interesting track where I hope to score some good points, something I haven't been able to do yet this season.”

Williams

Felipe Massa

“I think Shanghai is a nice track and it’s always fantastic to go back to China. I have a lot of fans there, and I always enjoy going to see them. We get people waiting outside the hotel all day, so it’s really amazing to be with them. I’m really looking forward to that. The fans always have a lot of gifts for me and my family, which is amazing. I’ve had good races there, including last year when I finished fifth. I look forward to another good race, and maybe even finishing on the podium.”

Valtteri Bottas

“China is a good track to drive. It has a massive long straight, which boosts overtaking. It has some high-speed corners which I very much like, and our car is not bad in those kind of conditions either. The weather can normally play a part in the China race weekend. It’s still the beginning of the year, and we are still looking to see improvements in our performance all the time. I’m looking forward to going to China and meeting all the fans. We have great support over there, and I thank our Chinese fans for that.”

Pat Symonds, Chief Technical Officer

“The Shanghai International Circuit has quite long straights with average corner speeds on the low side. However, Turns 7, 8 and 13 do exercise the high-speed characteristics of the car. The long duration of the corners puts a lot of energy through the tyres, therefore tyre wear is generally the limiting factor for strategy choice. Whilst in 2015 we generally saw two-stop strategies, experience so far in 2016 shows that teams are pushing to more aggressive strategies due to the freedom of tyre choice. The championship is extremely close, therefore we must keep pushing to remain competitive.”



Mercedes

Lewis Hamilton

“It’s not been a smooth start to the season for me, so to be in the Championship position I’m in right now is actually pretty positive. If you can have two bad races and still come away with two podiums, that bodes pretty well. I’ve come back from worse, that’s for sure! People keep asking me if I’m worried – if there’s a downward trend emerging. But I’m feeling the complete opposite. There are no real flaws in our procedure and how we’re working, so I know it’s going to come good. On a personal level too, I’m in the best place I’ve ever been psychologically. There’s very little, if anything at all, that can penetrate that. There’s a long, long way to go, so I’ll just keep working as hard as I have been. Now we go to China for the next battle. It's a track that’s been good to me over the years, with five poles and four wins, so hopefully this race can be the turning point.”

Nico Rosberg

“It’s great to start the season in such a positive way. But I’m just taking things step by step, race by race and targeting a lot more wins to come. It’s important to enjoy times like these. I feel very privileged to drive the best car on the grid for the third year in a row and I intend to make the most of it. I’m going to China now knowing I can fight for the win, which is a great feeling to have. It’s especially good in this instance too, as Shanghai is a track with good memories for me. I took my first pole and win there back in 2012, so I head into this weekend on a massive high. I’m looking forward to the next battle. We haven’t seen the real Ferrari yet, so it could be a very exciting season ahead.”

Toto Wolff, Head of Mercedes-Benz Motorsport

“After two races, we find ourselves in a strong position. Our car has proven itself to be competitive in a range of conditions once again – but also reliable even at this early stage, which is a tremendous achievement. But there is a long way to go and we have by no means been flawless in every area so far. With Ferrari increasingly breathing down our necks, as we saw in Bahrain, there is zero room for error. Remaining energised is now more important than ever – and we all have plenty to keep us on our toes in that respect. With just two races down and nineteen to go, I wouldn’t say there is momentum on one side or the other. But what is clear – and very exciting for the team and the sport – is that we have two drivers high in confidence who will provide us with plenty of entertainment over the coming months.”

Paddy Lowe, Executive Director (Technical)

“The Shanghai circuit places an entirely different duty on tyres relative to Melbourne and Bahrain. However, we have the same three compounds available, so it will be interesting to see how the competitive order plays out. It’s the first time we’ll see the supersoft compound used at this track, thanks to the new regulations, and that will likely create a more extreme example of what we saw in Bahrain, where the best qualifying tyre is unlikely to be a great race tyre. Every team is bound to want to qualify on the supersoft – but if it grains in the race, we could see cars stopping in the first five laps. There will be plenty of analysis to do on Friday and we could see some interesting calls on qualifying and race strategy. What makes this all the more difficult for the teams is the unpredictability of the conditions. It can be quite warm in Shanghai – but it can also be as cool as Belgium. That variability can make life tricky in terms of both setup and strategy work, so it’s always a challenging weekend. We like going to Shanghai, however. It’s an interesting city and traditionally one of our stronger circuits, with four poles and three wins from the last four races. We look forward to another good battle between our drivers and with Ferrari once again.”


Force India

Nico Hulkenberg

“When I think of the race in Shanghai I always remember the impressive towers on the main straight and the cool paddock buildings by the lake. It’s definitely a circuit with a special character and its own personality. The city of Shanghai is also a cool place to visit and I enjoy trying real Chinese food and exploring such a different culture. I’m always fascinated by big cities and feeling the buzz of the place.

“The track is also famous for the never-ending turn one. It’s a tricky corner because it’s easy to go in too hot, especially during qualifying, and it’s a corner that eats your tyres. In fact, looking after the tyres is always hard work because Turn 13 is another long right-hander that takes even more life out of them. The rest of the lap has a bit of everything from low-speed to high-speed, which makes it challenging to find a balanced set-up.

“My expectations for this weekend are high and, after the disappointment of Bahrain, I hope we can have a clean race in China. There’s good pace in the car and reaching Q3 in Bahrain was proof of that. We had to work very hard with the car set-up to find the sweet spot, but we learned a lot of things that will carry over into this weekend.”

Sergio Perez

“I’ve always enjoyed going to China. Shanghai is an interesting city to explore and you always get huge support from the fans. They always wait outside our hotel every day just to say hello and give us special gifts.

“They did a great job with the track design in Shanghai because there is a good mix of corners. Turn 1 is what everybody talks about and it’s my favourite part of the lap. It’s such an unusual corner and you have to judge your speed perfectly because you can lose a lot of time if you don’t attack it enough. Then, on the back straight, we always see lots of drag races and it’s a question of who will brake latest going into the hairpin.

“After two disappointing races I want to get my season started properly in Shanghai. The results in Australia and Bahrain could have been so much better, but things just didn’t work out for me. That’s part of racing and I know things will turn around soon. It was a similar situation as the start of last year before my luck started to change. The atmosphere in the team is still upbeat and everybody is pushing to get more performance from the car. We made a good step in Bahrain with the upgrades so we are definitely moving in the right direction.”

Vijay Mallya, Team Principal

“It feels as though we’ve yet to unleash our true potential this season. Both the races so far have been heavily compromised, either by our own mistakes or outside circumstances, so I’d like to see what we can achieve with a clean, trouble-free race to the flag. When things go to plan, we know we can compete well inside the top ten and I expect everyone in the team to be pushing hard to reverse our recent fortunes.”


Sauber

Marcus Ericsson

“The Chinese Grand Prix brings back good memories from last season. We had a strong race weekend there, finishing with both cars in the points. I put in a good performance with some nice battles on track. In the end I saw the chequered flag in P10. For this year’s race weekend on the Shanghai International Circuit, I feel confident that we can build up our performance from Bahrain and make another step forward there.”

Felipe Nasr

“My first Formula One race weekend at the Shanghai International Circuit was quite positive last year. We improved the car during the whole weekend and, after a top ten qualifying, I finished the race in eighth. Looking back to the Bahrain Grand Prix about a week ago, I hope that the team was able to sort out the issues I had with the C35. The objective is clearly to be more competitive. I am looking forward to the Chinese Grand Prix as the track characteristics should suit our car.”


Renault

Kevin Magnussen

“I’m really excited and I really want to get those first points on the board. Give me a normal race with no puncture and no penalty and I think we can do that! My race [here] in 2014 wasn’t the best, I struggled with the car I had, meaning I finished in 13th position. Certainly I’m hoping for a better result on my second visit.

“The [track] layout is interesting but it is a very wide circuit and there’s so much run-off area, it doesn’t feel as spectacular as it could be. It does have some really good fast corners; the entry to turn one is special in particular, you enter it from the fastest part of the track and by the end of what is a pretty long corner you’re at about 60kph!

“There are two DRS straights so that’s obviously where you look first for overtaking opportunities. The biggest chance is into the first turn as the DRS zone starts very late on the start-finish straight so you can get close to the car in front. That said, I’m always going to go for any opportunity no matter where it presents itself on a lap!

“We know our weaknesses and perhaps Shanghai’s not going to be the friendliest track for us in terms of these but I still think that if we have a good race we can challenge for points. I’m really pumped and excited.”

Jolyon Palmer

“I drove [the Shanghai International Circuit] last year in FP1 so I have a reasonable idea about the track. You can get pretty low temperatures there so there’s the challenge of long corners too, which means front tyre graining. It’s almost the exact opposite of Bahrain, which is rear limited.

“There are some very technical corners, like Turn 1 that is pretty unique as it goes pretty much back on itself, on to the back straight, which is another long corner that induces graining on the front left. The straight is very long and there’s DRS so in the race you’ll be looking to be as close as possible to the car ahead to slipstream and make a move, then you’re considering your braking point. It’s one of the longest straights on the calendar and it’s right at the end of the lap. You really need to maximise the potential; you can’t afford to mess it up. The long straight means the tyres are being cooled and the brakes are being cooled; both of which you need to be working at their best when you get into the corner.

“There are two sides to the track, you’ve got the really long straight with heavy braking at the end, then there’s the double DRS zones into the first corner as well so there’s overtaking opportunities there. The middle sector is more about high-speed corners where it’s not so easy to follow the car ahead but the corner itself provides the challenge. There’ll always be the element of looking after the tyres in Shanghai.”


Haas

Romain Grosjean

“I think there are a few more parts coming in China and then a few more after that. I’m very much looking forward to trying the first updates to see if they’re working as they should. We’re not a hundred percent with the car yet, so there are still a few things we can do without adding the updates. Again, in China, we have some aggressive tire options, so hopefully they will work as well as they did in Bahrain.

“[Shanghai is] a fun track. The first corner is probably the best known one. It’s a very long, right-hand turn corner. This circuit is very hard on the front tires. There’s also the very long back straight with big braking at the end. It’ll be a good test for us to see, on a very different track layout, if we’re as good as we were in Bahrain.”

Esteban Gutierrez

“We still need to manage our expectations because our car at the moment has reacted pretty well in Melbourne and in Bahrain, but we need to learn how it will react now in China. I think China will give us a good indication of how the season will be, and also the fact that all the other teams are pushing really hard to develop their car during the season. And as the season advances, it will get more and more competitive, so we need to be ready for that. We can still extract more speed and performance from our car, and China gives us an opportunity to do just that.

“Shanghai is a very front-limited track, which puts a lot of front load into the tires. Turn 1 is very fast and a very long corner - one which is very different to other corners of the season. It’s quite iconic to Shanghai. You arrive full speed, and when you enter into the corner, you have to wait very long into Turn 2. You have Turn 3, which has a very long exit, and it’s quite tricky on traction as you put a lot of lateral on the exit. You go through Turns 4 and 5, which is a very high-speed section, and then into Turn 6 and 7, one of my favourite parts of the track. You really come into Turn 6 with full speed and then change direction into Turn 7. You have to prepare for Turns 8 and 9 because this sequence is very important not to lose the rhythm. Then getting into Turn 10, it’s a small 90-degree corner which exits to a very, very long straight into Turn 11, which is the beginning of a very long corner. You go from very low speed to increasing the speed through the corner, and it’s a part of the circuit where it’s easy to hurt the front tyres. It’s an important part of the circuit when it comes to the car’s race setup. Then one of the longest straights of the season is the back straight, were you’re at maximum speed. You arrive into a very high-braking corner - the hairpin Turn 14. Then the last corner is 90 degrees - a medium-speed corner - which is quite tricky on the exit because you have the curb which you can use quite a lot but, obviously, it has its limits. You’re always trying to maximize the track. It’s quite challenging.”

Guenther Steiner, Technical Director

“One of our goals is to take two cars to the finish, because we haven’t done that one yet. You always want to get better, and the next thing for us to do is take two cars to the finish and, hopefully, both score points.”


Red Bull

Daniel Ricciardo

“The straight at the Shanghai International Circuit is super long which makes it pretty different compared to other tracks. Coming off that straight, you then have to brake for one of the tightest corners on the calendar - you go from one of the highest speeds to the lowest. Turns 1, 2 and 3 are like one big corner, really long and uphill, and this makes it really tough on the front left tyre, it’s one of the toughest circuits for that which can be interesting.

“As a city, Shanghai is cool, but it’s hard for us to get to because the track is quite far away and the traffic can be pretty bad. We usually get one night to go into the city to eat out and get a view of the skyline.

“I remember one year I was at a traditional Chinese restaurant with my mechanics and everything had spice in it, and I love my spice. The pork ribs were amazing! But then you would get something simple like soup or vegetables and it’s covered in chilli so you really need to like your spicy food to enjoy the local cuisine.”

Daniil Kvyat

“I think the Shanghai Circuit is actually a really interesting and technical track. Turn 1 is a unique corner and the fast changes of direction in the middle of the lap are challenging.

“My first race there was in 2014 and we had a wet qualifying which made it challenging as we had very different conditions for the race.

“Shanghai itself is very unique and a really big city. I used to live in Moscow which is big but it doesn’t compare to the size of Shanghai. I think it’s quite an international city, with many things going on there and some nice food. The river that runs through the city is so massive it actually looks like an ocean.

Pirelli


Paul Hembery, Motorsport Director

“China is a very different type of circuit to the two that we’ve visited up to now this year, yet the tyre nomination is the same, which underlines the adaptability of our product under a wide range of circumstances. Shanghai is also likely to be quite a cool race, although the nature of the place means that anything is possible, so teams will have to keep an open mind on strategy and carefully correlate the data captured in practice to the eventual race conditions. The three compounds selected have led to a number of different tactical permutations up to now, and we expect an ample variety of strategies once more in China.”

NEMANJA97
11.04.2016, 20:15
Ajmo rušiti Mercedes ::)

Vanja #66
11.04.2016, 21:26
Zanimljivo koliko su šareni izbori pneumatika sad. U Australiji je sve bilo slično, u Bahreinu više razlika, sad još više...:hm:

Tarantula
11.04.2016, 21:42
Rosberg ili Hamilton, Hamilton ili Rosberg? :hm:

Vanja #66
11.04.2016, 22:00
Nisam siguran da su i oni svesni istine... :D

Vanja #66
14.04.2016, 08:15
Hamilton neće krenuti sa pol pozicije i ako je bude osvojio, promenjen mu je menjač, +5 na gridu:

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/04/14/hamilton-take-gearbox-change-penalty-china/

Dule Krtola
14.04.2016, 08:35
Rosberga bas hoce nesto...

dzoni gp
14.04.2016, 08:56
Za sada mu se bas slazu kockice,poceo sam da verujem da ce uzeti titulu...

Dule Krtola
14.04.2016, 09:15
A ne znam sto bi ti rekao.
I onako F1 ide u losem pravcu tako da titula Rosberga bi taman isla s time iliti poklopilo bi se sve.

Vanja #66
14.04.2016, 12:06
Što, šta fali Rosbergu? I lošiji vozači od njega su uzimali titule... Mene on stalno iznenađuje, nisam mislio da je tako brz vozač...

Tarantula
14.04.2016, 13:02
Odličan je Nico, trpio je ovih godina ulogu 2 vozača. Vjerujem da može ove godine do titule.

NEMANJA97
14.04.2016, 21:13
Hamilton neće krenuti sa pol pozicije i ako je bude osvojio, promenjen mu je menjač, +5 na gridu:

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/04/14/hamilton-take-gearbox-change-penalty-china/

Ohohoho eto već najave za malo zanimljivosti ::) Niku se sve baš poklapa , ali dug je šampionat mislim da će opet fejlovati u nekom trenutku

Tarantula
14.04.2016, 23:29
Da prođe više i ova trka, pa da se karavan preseli u Evropu, da mogu ko čovjek gledati trke.
Ne mogu ustajati u cik zore.

NEMANJA97
14.04.2016, 23:44
Da prođe više i ova trka, pa da se karavan preseli u Evropu, da mogu ko čovjek gledati trke.
Ne mogu ustajati u cik zore.

Ovde se potpuno slažemo najviše mrzim ove rano jutarnje ::)

zorant
15.04.2016, 09:34
Ferari ispred Mercedesa na P2 ? hmmmm

BogdanB
15.04.2016, 09:38
Nista to ne znaci. Ubice Mecka kao uvek u trci.

Послато са GT-I9300 користећи Тапаток 2

Dule Krtola
15.04.2016, 11:17
Trening1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgDcruGWIAAecu2.jpg


Trening2
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgES9M0UkAEL80S.jpg

bice
15.04.2016, 17:12
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Fale Kimi, Grozan, Magnusen, Harijanto i Palmer. Kladim se da je Kimi otisao za sank :biggrin:

Vanja #66
15.04.2016, 23:09
Ferrari u simulaciji trke brži od Mečki. A sutra će kiša. A Hamilton neće startovati sa pol pozicije...

bice
15.04.2016, 23:25
Bar ce biti stare kvalifikacije, pa nece biti dosadno.

Vanja #66
16.04.2016, 07:48
Vettel pro forme najbrži na mokrom FP3, sa svega 3 izvezena kruga... Mečkini vozači nisu ni postavljali vremena.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/04/16/vettel-tops-wet-final-chinese-gp-practice/

NEMANJA97
16.04.2016, 09:34
Jel moguće da u svakoj situaciji naprave cirkus od formule?:( Isušivanje staze pa sad ovaj auto :wall: Stvarno komedija, bar je pozitivno što su stare kvalifikacije:D

NEMANJA97
16.04.2016, 09:51
Hamilton nije postavio vreme u Q1 pa će sutra imati vrlo interesantnu trku , a Rozberg ima bukvalno početak iz snova i trebalo bi da to što više iskoristi

Sile
16.04.2016, 10:49
Ovo je bilo ,za razliku od onoga prve trke :f1::f1: Moze biti surtra prave borbe,steta za ferrari obojica ista krivina greska ,bili bi sigurno ispred Rikarda. Inace red bull je dalje no 1 bolid ,da se ja pitam nikad im nebi dao motor :tu2:

Dule Krtola
16.04.2016, 11:02
Može li mi neko reći, čemu ono mangupisanje Vetela to jest Ferarija? Da čekaju 2 min do kraja pa da izađe na stazu? I kasnije im nije jasno zašto je Vetel završio tu đe jes, nije im jasno kako je to moguće.

Tako se ne pobjeđuje braćo moja. Tako se samo gubi.



Bravo za Rikarda i tim.

NEMANJA97
16.04.2016, 11:14
Više ne navijam za Ferari , ali kako su mogli tako fejlovati?:wall: Bravo za Rikarda nadam se da može napasti Rozberga , a izgleda se i Ferari trudi da sve više pomogne Rozbergu::)

forum1nick
16.04.2016, 11:32
Mečka i dalje školuje.
Sutra očekujem P1 i P3 za Mercedes na kraju dana.

Tarantula
16.04.2016, 12:46
Evo i svih rezultata:

1. Nico Rosberg GER Mercedes-Mercedes 1m 35.402s
2. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull-TAG Heuer 1m 35.917s
3. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 35.972s
4. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 36.246s
5. Valtteri Bottas FIN Williams-Mercedes 1m 36.296s
6. Daniil Kvyat RUS Red Bull-TAG Heuer 1m 36.399s
7. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes 1m 36.865s
8. Carlos Sainz Jr ESP Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 36.881s
9. Max Verstappen NED Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 37.194s
10. Nico Hulkenberg GER Force India-Mercedes No time

11. Felipe Massa BRZ Williams-Mercedes 1m 37.347s
12. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda 1m 38.836s
13. Jenson Button GBR McLaren-Honda 1m 39.093s
14. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari 1m 39.830s
15. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber-Ferrari 1m 40.742s
16. Felipe Nasr BRZ Sauber-Ferrari 1m 42.430s

17. Kevin Magnussen DEN Renault-Renault 1m 38.673s
18. Esteban Gutierrez MEX Haas-Ferrari 1m 38.770s
19. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault-Renault 1m 39.528s
20. Rio Haryanto INA MRT-Mercedes 1m 40.264s
21. Pascal Wehrlein GER MRT-Mercedes No time
22. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes-Mercedes No time*

Izvor: http://www.crash.net/f1/results/229437/1/chinese-grand-prix-qualifying-results.html

Sutra očekujem veoma zanimljivu trku. Pobjedi li Nico, već će to biti lijepa prednost, iako su samo 3 trke završene.

Nikoletina
16.04.2016, 13:40
Hulkenberg dobio kaznu od tri mesta, tako da startuje 13-ti.

woxer
17.04.2016, 07:56
Ima li budnih?? Forza Ferrari!!! :D

Bane je
17.04.2016, 08:00
Ja cu odgledat par krugova

Dule Krtola
17.04.2016, 08:00
A da nisam prva smjena tesko da bi ustajao iliti gledao ::)

A sta ocekivati od trke?
Pa samo se nadam da Ferari moze nesto uraditi na pocetku pa da gledamo koliko toliko uzbudljivu trku.

forum1nick
17.04.2016, 08:03
Imam dobar osjećaj da će biti uzbudljivo.
Button i Alonso jedan iza drugog, ali na različitim gumama. Ovo je direktna borba za ugovor :)

woxer
17.04.2016, 08:04
Da li je moguce da se ovo desava?

forum1nick
17.04.2016, 08:06
Ferrari dominira :)

SC izvučen da bi malo zakomplikovali.
Nevjerovatno je koliko ROS ima sreće.

woxer
17.04.2016, 08:17
Realno covek ce pola trka ove godine dobiti na sudarima, crvenim zastavama, greskama drugih timova itd.

forum1nick
17.04.2016, 08:21
Honda na P3 lijepo je videti makar znali da je zbog SC.
Ferrari strašan u trci. Šteta za sve gluposti. Mislim da bi VET inače bio i ispred ROS.

Nevjerovatno je koliku razliku RBR pravi u sporim krivinama u odnosu na Ferrari. Da ljudi imaju malo bolji agregat bila bi to prava borba sa Mercedesom. Ovako...

NEMANJA97
17.04.2016, 09:06
Realno covek ce pola trka ove godine dobiti na sudarima, crvenim zastavama, greskama drugih timova itd.

Neće Rozbergu biti tako lagano , doći će i njegov lošiji period. Sad Hamilton ne deluje ništa posebno, ali zapamtite ima još puno trka ima Rozberg još puno stvari da uradi::)


Nevjerovatno je koliku razliku RBR pravi u sporim krivinama u odnosu na Ferrari. Da ljudi imaju malo bolji agregat bila bi to prava borba sa Mercedesom. Ovako...

Ali moraš uzeti u obzir da celu trku Vettel vozi sa hendikepom

forum1nick
17.04.2016, 09:28
Ono kada HAM nema +1s po krugu u odnosu na konkurenciju, pa ga u 2 kruga otresu i RBR i slabiji Ferrari.

Vjerujem da će sanjati Massu koji mu je praktično uzeo 2 mjesta, a možda i 3.

BogdanB
17.04.2016, 09:29
Lepo je videti kako RB I Ferari preticu Mercedes I to Hamiltona. Ne zato sto imam nesto protiv njega, nego zato sto je sampion I sto je bolji vozac od Rozberga.

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Damir
17.04.2016, 09:36
Nevjerovatna greska u strategiji Mercedesa.
Hamilton je nakon prvo promjene u 2 krugu trebao da vozi soft do ca 20 kruga. U 20. krugu su mu opet trebali stavit soft do 41/42 kruga i onda ga ppsljednjih 14/15 krugova stavit na super soft.
Vec kad to nisu uradili onda su ga posljednjih 12/13 krugova trrbali skinut s ovih mediim guma na kojim vozi 1:41 vremena i muci se s Massom a stavit na super soft na kojim bi vozio 1:38/1:39 krugove

quard1aN
17.04.2016, 09:51
Sta izvodi Fetel ccc. Izgleda da je kontao da moze biti prvi, pa je napao Kvyata. Zao mi momka

woxer
17.04.2016, 09:55
Niko ne zna da se ponasa kad mu ide himna drzave koju predstavlja. Doce trka gde Ferari nece imati neki hendikep, i kontam da ce Seb da porazi oba Mercedesa.

quard1aN
17.04.2016, 09:58
Niko ne zna da se ponasa kad mu ide himna drzave koju predstavlja. Doce trka gde Ferari nece imati neki hendikep, i kontam da ce Seb da porazi oba Mercedesa.

Toliko podijuma, toliko istih himni...

Fetel bljuje vatru :biggrin:

woxer
17.04.2016, 10:02
Toliko podijuma, toliko istih himni...

Fetel bljuje vatru :biggrin:

U pravu si, ali kontam da sam na njegovom mestu i da ide moja himna, najmanje sto bi uradio je to da bi se smirio tih 1-2 min. Mada verujem da bi svaku otpevao, posto je on tu da predstavi sebe i svoju zemlju.

Damir
17.04.2016, 10:05
Koji mozgovi u Mercedesu. Posljednjih 12/13 krugova ostavljaju Ham na najtvrdjim gumama da se muci iza Masse i omogucuju Riccardu i Kimiji da ga prestignu. Na supersoft gumama s praznim autom Ham je mogao da vozi krugove 1:38/1:39 (na tvrdim je vozio 1:41/42 iza Masse) i u 7/8 krugova nadoknadi ono sto je izgubio u boxu, oduva Riccarda, Kimmia (koji su bili na soft gumama) i Massu na stazi

quard1aN
17.04.2016, 10:07
U pravu si, ali kontam da sam na njegovom mestu i da ide moja himna, najmanje sto bi uradio je to da bi se smirio tih 1-2 min. Mada verujem da bi svaku otpevao, posto je on tu da predstavi sebe i svoju zemlju.

Sjedni u formulu i vozi trku na nivou prvog mjesta dva sata, pa idi na podijum 5 minuta posle :D

Dule Krtola
17.04.2016, 10:09
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgOpQ7SUkAAbyFk.jpg

Bane je
17.04.2016, 10:15
A ovaj Sainz ima li kakve veze sa relly vozacem Sainzom?

quard1aN
17.04.2016, 10:18
A ovaj Sainz ima li kakve veze sa relly vozacem Sainzom?

Otac - sin veza :biggrin:

Bane je
17.04.2016, 10:21
Otac - sin veza :biggrin:

Jaka veza

somborac
17.04.2016, 10:22
Više nego dobra trka, samo što ja još uvek nisam siguran koliko je Ferari blizu (daleko) od Mercedesa :ne_znam: :D
Stoji da Rosberg deluje nedodirljivo, opet Hamilton već drugu trku ne izlazi na kraj sa Kimijem (koji je što se vožnje tiče napokon spojio dve dobre trke).....
Za dve nedelje u Moskvi osim što je 1. Maj i Vaskrs bit će i trke :cool: , pa ko zna možda dobijem(o) odgovore na sva pitanja :)

Vanja #66
17.04.2016, 10:35
Dobra trka, puna prevrata i uzbuđenja, od prve krivine pa do samog kraja. Seb, Kimi i Kvyat su išli ka istoj tački u prvoj krivini, neko je tu morao da izgubi, nažalost to je opet bio Kimi. Kvyat je definitivno preoportunistički pustio kočnice i uleteo, da se Seb nije sklonio mislim da bi uleteo i u Kimija direktno. Bilo je dosta dobrih poteza na stazi danas, ali taj nije bio jedan od njih. Primećuje se taj trend među mlađim vozačima, već 4-5 sezona prečesto idu na bezobrazluk kad pokušavaju da preteknu, znajući da drugi vozač neće želeti da rizikuje sudar...

Nakon SC Seb pokazao šta on i SF16H mogu, a verujem da je brzo nakon poslednje zamene pneumatika prebacio motor na slabiji mod i krstario do podijuma. Bolje su kontrolisali degradaciju od Mercedesa i opet se vidi koji tim je radio sa Medium pneumaticima tokom testiranja, a koji sa Soft... Rosberg obilato koristi niz malih događaja koji mu idu u korist i nema mu se šta zameriti. Biće trka kad će i on biti u problemu i zaliha koju je do sad napravio će mu jako dobro doći. Hamilton nije pokazao puno danas, mada nije ni imao previše prilika. Kimi ponovo u tiha-voda-breg-roni režimu, izvrstan povratak do 5. mesta, pokazao je malo svoje magije danas. Ricciardo takođe odradio dobar povratak nakon pucanja zadnje leve, a valja pomenuti i Toro Rosso. Williams sve lošiji i lošiji, a McLaren i pored svega što se dogodilo ne uspeva da uzme poene. Oba bolida su završila, makar to je dobar znak...

Tek 6. trka u istoriji F1 da su svi vozači prošli kariranu zastavu...


Koji mozgovi u Mercedesu. Posljednjih 12/13 krugova ostavljaju Ham na najtvrdjim gumama da se muci iza Masse i omogucuju Riccardu i Kimiji da ga prestignu. Na supersoft gumama s praznim autom Ham je mogao da vozi krugove 1:38/1:39 (na tvrdim je vozio 1:41/42 iza Masse) i u 7/8 krugova nadoknadi ono sto je izgubio u boxu, oduva Riccarda, Kimmia (koji su bili na soft gumama) i Massu na stazi

Potpuno su izgubljeni bez tebe, Damire...

Damir
17.04.2016, 11:07
@ Vanja

O cemu ti pricas decko, sta je Vettel nakon SC pokazao?
Ferrari je odradio bolji posao od Mercedesa, stavili su ga na SS i na njima se prosetao kroz drugoligase koji su se igrom slucaja nasli u top 7/8. Za razliku od njih Mercedes je iskoristio SC fazu i u njoj se rijesio SS guma sto je bila ocigledna greska. Post Krtole na kojem vidis da je Ham iskoristio 6 setova guma je najbolji pokazatelj da su totalno pogubljeni bili, bez jasne strategije. Ja ostajem pri tvrdnji da bi bolje bilo da je Ham 12/13 krugova prije kraja presao na SS gume. Izgubio bi u boxu ca 20 sec ali bi po krugu bio brzi 2-3 sec, nadoknadio bi izgubljeno i pobijedio Dania, Kimia i Massu.
Rosberg s pola snage do pobjede,Ferrariji ne bi imali sanse ni da su kao 2. i 3. usli u 2. krug

somborac
17.04.2016, 11:27
Da se ispravim, ipak neće biti baš tolika gužva u Moskvi, pošto se VN Rusije vozi u Soćiju...

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Dule Krtola
17.04.2016, 11:41
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgOyeipWsAAMffM.png

bice
17.04.2016, 12:31
Nema srece Kimi jbg, ali opet je uspeo da izvuce trku iako je u jednom trenutku izgledalo da je sve izgubljeno. Krenulo ove sezone Rosberga opasno, ali okrece se kolo srece. Rikardo fantastican, sve vise ga gotivim i mislim da znam za koga cu navijati kada Kimi ne bude vise vozio u F1. :)

Tarantula
17.04.2016, 13:07
Kako su samo Vettel, Raikkonen pa i Hamilton izvukli trku. Vettel 2 puta u obilazak drugih vozača s 14-15 mjesta, Kimi s dosta problema do 5 mjesta, i Hamilton sa začelja na 7 poziciju. A Vettel zapeo za Kvyata, a mislim da je sve bilo čisto.

forum1nick
17.04.2016, 13:31
Hamiltonova vožnja, sa oštećenim bolidom, daje lažnu sliku da je konkurencija dostigla Mercedes.
Uz sve probleme koje je imao, sa malo drugačijom taktikom Hamilton bi bez problema stigao do P4, a možda i malo više.
Rosberg na kraju lagano sa ogromnom prednošću do pobjede koja mu sada donosi značajnu prednost. Već sada može da lovi samo druga mjesta i čeka kiks Hamiltona, a biće ih kako nervoza raste. Mislim da ćemo ove godine dobiti novog šampiona. Još jednog koji to vozački teško da je zaslužio.

Vanja #66
17.04.2016, 14:47
@ Vanja

O cemu ti pricas decko, sta je Vettel nakon SC pokazao?
Ferrari je odradio bolji posao od Mercedesa, stavili su ga na SS i na njima se prosetao kroz drugoligase koji su se igrom slucaja nasli u top 7/8. Za razliku od njih Mercedes je iskoristio SC fazu i u njoj se rijesio SS guma sto je bila ocigledna greska. Post Krtole na kojem vidis da je Ham iskoristio 6 setova guma je najbolji pokazatelj da su totalno pogubljeni bili, bez jasne strategije. Ja ostajem pri tvrdnji da bi bolje bilo da je Ham 12/13 krugova prije kraja presao na SS gume. Izgubio bi u boxu ca 20 sec ali bi po krugu bio brzi 2-3 sec, nadoknadio bi izgubljeno i pobijedio Dania, Kimia i Massu.
Rosberg s pola snage do pobjede,Ferrariji ne bi imali sanse ni da su kao 2. i 3. usli u 2. krug

Odobravam ti postove kako bismo svi mogli da uživamo u tvojoj bezgraničnoj mudrosti, nadam se da Mercedesovi inženjeri čitaju ovaj forum i shvataju kakvu su grešku napravili.


Hamiltonova vožnja, sa oštećenim bolidom, daje lažnu sliku da je konkurencija dostigla Mercedes.
Uz sve probleme koje je imao, sa malo drugačijom taktikom Hamilton bi bez problema stigao do P4, a možda i malo više.
Rosberg na kraju lagano sa ogromnom prednošću do pobjede koja mu sada donosi značajnu prednost. Već sada može da lovi samo druga mjesta i čeka kiks Hamiltona, a biće ih kako nervoza raste. Mislim da ćemo ove godine dobiti novog šampiona. Još jednog koji to vozački teško da je zaslužio.

Ček, ček, molim za malu pauzu. Rosberg je imao ogromnu prednost, a ko je bio iza njega? Vettel sa bolidom daleko od savršenog. Samo to oštećenje prednjeg krila utiče na dinamiku vozila, a šta ako je pri udaru sa Kimijem došlo do neke sitne deformacije na prednjem levom točku?

Drugo, kako je to Hamilton mogao da ima drugačiju strategiju, kojom bi stigao ispred Ricciarda? Ovo je vrlo abrazivna staza, gume se troše, a u momentu kad je prešao na Medium gume gomila drugih bolida je na tim istim gumama bila jednako brza kao ostali na Soft...

Inače Rosberg je vezao 6 pobeda, to uopšte nije mala stvar, koliko god da je bolid dominantan...

Sile
17.04.2016, 15:30
Odlicna trka,bilo je svega sto treba, lupanja, obilazenja, strategije !! Niku kapa dole, usao je sa legendama ipak 6 trka za redom svaka cast iako mi nije po ukusa sampiona.Oce ga ali srecu treba i zasluziti !
Ferrari ima dobar bolid i mogu sa njima definitivno jos ako se uzme u obzir da od spanije tek mogu punu snagu ,videcemo!! i paklene vozace , majstori kako su odvozili posle starta. Ali Kimi najveci maler u novijoj istoriji f1 neverovatno sta se coveku sve desava uvek.. ALI kakav sampion , ne znam samo zasto stalno ova dvojica komentatora bacaju kritiku pa covek je sa zadnjeg mesta dosao do 5! gde vam je hamilton? Gde vam je sada zamena Botas 20 bodova iza Mase skoro to da ne primetite ??
I za kraj red bull nikada motori vama :P

quard1aN
17.04.2016, 15:33
Dosta je omalozavanja Rosberga. I prosle sezone je vozio momacki na kraju dok je Hamilton izlazio i opijao se. I drago mi je sto je sad ovako, nek uzme titulu

Tarantula
17.04.2016, 17:43
Sve je još to rano prognozirati, Rosberg trenutno ima lijepu prednost, očekujem od Hamiltona da na evropskom tlu pokaže ko je svjetski šampion.

Dule Krtola
17.04.2016, 18:29
Luis mislim ima psihičkih problema, što Niko iskorišćava odlično. Možda noćni život i sve to ima sudjele u tome možda ne ali fakat je vidljivo da se sa njim nešto događa.
Al eto još veća žal što Ferari ne može konačno krenuti kako treba jer mislim da bi Mečki zadali dosta glavobolja.

Alan
17.04.2016, 18:39
Hamilton je imao ostecen bolid.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/123821/hamilton-damage-wouldve-felt-even-worse

Vanja #66
17.04.2016, 18:41
Polako, krenuće i to, uvek sve dođe na svoje...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGHcHtsySnc

Kako bi Kvyat pokupio Raikkonena da ga Seb nije zakačio, još se ovo sve i dobro završilo po svu trojicu...

Dule Krtola
18.04.2016, 11:17
2016 Chinese GP driver ratings (http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12529/10246956/2016-chinese-gp-driver-ratings)

Nikoletina
18.04.2016, 13:50
Vjerovatno je i kod Fetela bio oštećen bolid tj. oslanjanje, imao je 2 kontakta na startu, pa se opet ne žali.

Damir
18.04.2016, 14:22
[QUOTE=Vanja #66;1493754]Odobravam ti postove kako bismo svi mogli da uživamo u tvojoj bezgraničnoj mudrosti, nadam se da Mercedesovi inženjeri čitaju ovaj forum i shvataju kakvu su grešku napravili.



Ček, ček, molim za malu pauzu. Rosberg je imao ogromnu prednost, a ko je bio iza njega? Vettel sa bolidom daleko od savršenog. Samo to oštećenje prednjeg krila utiče na dinamiku vozila, a šta ako je pri udaru sa Kimijem došlo do neke sitne deformacije na prednjem levom točku?

Drugo, kako je to Hamilton mogao da ima drugačiju strategiju, kojom bi stigao ispred Ricciarda? Ovo je vrlo abrazivna staza, gume se troše, a u momentu kad je prešao na Medium gume gomila drugih bolida je na tim istim gumama bila jednako brza kao ostali na Soft...

Inače Rosberg je vezao 6 pobeda, to uopšte nije mala stvar, koliko god da je bolid dominantan...[/QUOTE

Gospon Mozak, na toj abrazivnoj stazi Nico je s 2 promjene guma lagano oduvao konkurenciju. Sada ces vjerovatno pocet da nam filozofiras o razlicitim stilovima voznje i podesavanjima bolida zbog kojih je Ham auto jeo gume.
Svakom loncu si poklopac a pojma nemas internet expertu

Dule Krtola
18.04.2016, 15:49
Inace da spomenem kad vec niko nije, kakva uvrtira za Kvjata pred Soči. Bas ga je potrefio.
Momak od kad je dosao u Red Bul, fino parira Rikardu, imao je cak i bolja izdanja od njega. Nebi ja njega ćerao momak nista slabije rezultate od Rikarda nema a od Rikarda se ocekivalo vise. A mali Maks dobar vozac al kao covjek je mislim los i mozda ga to bude kostalo mjesta u Red Bul.

NEMANJA97
18.04.2016, 16:00
Nema veliku Rozberg prednost ima više od jedne trke prednosti , ali ima puno trka tako da se sve to može brzo nadohnaditi, Hamilton je možda sad bio lošiji , ali će sigurno biti mnogo bolji u nastavku. Možda se i Ferari poslože kockice??? Pa i da njegov dvojac nekako drži priključak. Možda i Rikardo zadržati ritam??? Ima puno pitanja , ali jedna stvar je sigurna trke će biti zanimljive::)

Dule Krtola
18.04.2016, 18:28
Rosberg joins Vettel, Schumacher and Ascari on six-in-a-row (http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/04/18/rosberg-joins-vettel-schumacher-and-ascari-on-six-in-a-row/?utm_source=beingboring&utm_medium=onlythewind&utm_campaign=jealousy)

Vanja #66
18.04.2016, 21:51
Gospon Mozak, na toj abrazivnoj stazi Nico je s 2 promjene guma lagano oduvao konkurenciju. Sada ces vjerovatno pocet da nam filozofiras o razlicitim stilovima voznje i podesavanjima bolida zbog kojih je Ham auto jeo gume.
Svakom loncu si poklopac a pojma nemas internet expertu

Nema potrebe za bilo kakvim filozofiranjem, postoje samo činjenice - Nico je imao čistu stazu ispred sebe, diktirao tempo i kontrolisao svoju trku. Hamilton je celu trku jurio, bio iza drughi bolida, pratio ih, klizao i otklizavao i ne postoji baš nikakva šansa da njih dvojica u istim bolidima i sa bliskim podešavanjima mogu na isti način voziti trku kada su im pozicije sasvim suprotne.

O mom poznavanju ovog sporta, tj. ekspertizi kako kažeš ne mogu da komentarišem. A da sam poklopac jesam - volim da poklapam ljude poput tebe. Otovreno i bez uvijenih kvaziintelektualnih sarkazama i drugih mudrolija.


2016 Chinese GP driver ratings (http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12529/10246956/2016-chinese-gp-driver-ratings)

Ako je Sky to objavio, sigurno da su bili sasvim nepristrasni. :D

Dule Krtola
21.04.2016, 12:15
Natalie Pinkham is joined in the studio by Williams development driver Alex Lynn and former McLaren mechanic Marc Priestley to dissect the Chinese GP.
WATCH: F1 Report Chinese GP (http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12536/10252076/watch-f1-report-china)